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| Author | Comment | Micky
Jul-25-2006, 13:49 GMT
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USA - United Staates America
 | Itīs very nice passing a comment about people dancing more, but I think most of us would have prefered a review of the concert. And why would people not dancing spoil Paulīs show.
Just one other thing...not aimed so much at Wade, this is a general thing. Why do some refer to Paul and Mr Simon? Heīs not a bank manager, nor is he the President etc...It makes him sound like a suit..please donīt use it, itīs horrible. Winge over.... | | | | Bodo
Jul-25-2006, 14:43 GMT
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Austria
 | This is the first tour where I heard so many comments about people who feel disturbed by dancing or standing people - and I personaly can not understand these people.
Also for me it would be horrible to sit during the full show! I can not remember one PS show in Europe where the people did not stand up (at least when YCCMA was played) and stood till the end. I only remember the S&G show in Miami, a big hall with no atmosphere, and all people sitting during the whole show. I did not like that.
Some years ago I have read that Paul likes it when people stand up and dance to his songs - somehow thats the point when he finally really īreacedī the audience. And he said that he does not understand why people are not allowed at some venues. IMO he should only play outdoor events with no seats. Or there should not be any seats on the ground floor in front of the stage.
The listeners who only want to sit could also sit 25 meters away.
| | | | Beth
Jul-25-2006, 16:15 GMT
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USA - United Staates America
| I attended two concerts this tour...Both times I was 3-4 seats from the stage...There was some dancing in Columbus...but more dancing in Toledo.....in Toledo everyone was in the aisles and standing up front...as close to the stage as possible...through much of the concert...and everyone was standing through Cecelia and both encores...maybe thatīs why he added BOTW at that show.....I think the outdoor venues are more casual, relaxed...more open to dancing....and I think Paul gets into the show more at the outdoor venues...He told us in the hotel lobby in Toledo the next morning, after the show, one of the guys I was with who had been to Columbus, Cleveland, and Toledo shows...And I told Paul that the man had been to all three shows....Paul asked him which one he liked better...He said Toledo as īyou seemed to be more into itī...Paul chuckled and said that he could īhear betterī(at the Toledo show)...So I am assuming that Paul enjoys the outdoor venues more also.....because he can hear better than at a closed venue.....Anyway, I think outdoor venues are less stuffy...more open to dancing....What do you all think who have been to outdoor or indoor this tour?.... | | | | Jen
Jul-25-2006, 16:29 GMT
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USA - United Staates America
| I posted a lot about this in my review, but, Beth, I completely agree. I was at the Holmdel, NJ show, which was an outdoor venue. I said this in my review, but at least around me, everyone, young and Old, was getting into the music. This was my first Paul Simon concert, I am yonger than most who enjoy him, only 21, but if I had gone and everyone had been sitting the entire time it would have ruined the experience for me.
I have been to a lot of concerts, and at every outdoor venue, people seem to be able and willing to have more fun. Maybe it is just the atmosphere, but I prefer it.
And I completely agree with Wade. Why would you pay good money to go to a concert and sit in a chair the whole time. Isnīt the purpose of music to move you? And isnīt the purpose of a concert for you to be able to interact with live music? I donīt know, I find that there seems to be differing opinions on the subject. For instance, Iīve taken my mom to many concerts, and she always stands and dances and enjoys herself, but there always seems to be someone around her who is complaining and telling her to sit down. I just donīt understand it. I know if I were up on stage and everyone, especially those in the front, were sitting the entire time, I would feel like I was wasting my energy. | | | | Klausi
Jul-25-2006, 17:02 GMT
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Germany
 | I think it is very simple. It is just disturbing if people would dance or clap to American Tune or Slip slidin` away and it is appreciating during You Can Call Me Al, Late In The Evening, Diamonds etc.
That was always the way I registered it in his concerts.
The Graceland tour however was almost completely for dancing. You did not have reserved places too, the capacity of a venue without seats is much larger, and the tour was sold out.
In the seventies Simon refused to play large venues because of the bad sound. | | | | Bonnie
Jul-25-2006, 18:22 GMT
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USA - United Staates America
| Okay, dang it, I guess I canīt just sit back and be quiet, but feel compelled to give my 2 cents:
1)If people donīt want to dance, I think they shouldnīt have to dance. If others want to, let them. "How Can You Live In The Northeast? How can you live in the south?" ...How can you sit down to my music? How can you dance to such heart-breaking lyrics? I donīt know... Iīm aware itīs the MUSIC people are dancing to (vs. the lyrics), but it seems to me that thereīs something just strange about being so happy and dancing when someone says, "I went to wash my face, came back to bed and someoneīs taken my place." Hey, thatīs not something to dance about! Anyway, tolerance, people. Tolerance. Someone else on the forum said it: Those who want to sit, sit. Those who want to dance, dance. Just let those around, in front, next to, and behind you enjoy the concert in his/her chosen manner. Itīs not a debate. Itīs not a war. Itīs not a big deal. Be kind. Be considerate. Be tolerant. And recognize the commonality that brought each of you/us to the same concert in the same place on the same evening: an appreciation for Paul Simonīs music.
2) ... Which brings up the topic of how to address "the man." Well, Micky, I enjoy your threads, your insight, your anecdotes, and yes, even "your accent!" (I had to say that!). But, you may call him Paul; Peggy Harper may have called him Al; Edie may call him "Snookums" or "Buttercup" (absolutely have no idea on this one); but until I meet him personally and he asks me to address him by his first name, I still more comfortable calling him "Paul Simon" or "PS." Itīs just a matter of respect, thatīs all. Perhaps itīs nothing more than me reminding myself that, no matter how much or how highly I may think of him, I donīt actually know him and need to put everything (including visiting his fan websites, reading articles about him and interviews with him, "chatting" with others who, for 10 seconds on one day out of their lives, have talked with him, that I really donīt know him nor too much about him and that pretending I do doesnīt make it so. Itīs, for me, at least, a reminder to keep a respectful distance, in thought as well as reality, to afford him the consideration and privacy and, um, "respect" he deserves. I realize this is simply my take on it, but ... isnīt it might right to choose what words come out of my mouth, as long as Iīm not hurting anyone with them?
Anyway, I saw a question and felt compelled to answer it. Foolish me: I always think people want answers to the questions they ask. Perhaps not. | | | | suzi
Jul-25-2006, 19:16 GMT
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Unknown
 | Well said, Bonnie. I am Paulīs age and we were raised a little differently in the 50īs. Respect was really stressed when you didnīt know someone personally. It was had for me at first to call him Paul. And on the dancing. It is hard for me depending on the weather. But, I sure try to get up there and move with so many of the songs. If folks are standing in front of me, I usually find that just a little shift will help me see. The Marcus Arena has regular seats, bench seats, and grass. You have your choice. And you are so right. Tolerance is the key. | | | | Jen
Jul-25-2006, 19:57 GMT
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USA - United Staates America
| I agree that tolerance is the key, and I find that is what is lacking in most cases. So many times I have been scolded or yelled at for standing during a concert to the point where I felt I had to sit back down. I donīt yell at other people for sitting, so I donīt think I should ever be yelled at for standing.
Someone mentioned in one of the reviews that maybe there should be a differentiation between sitting areas and standing areas, I think this would solve a lot of the problem. | | | | Mimi
Jul-25-2006, 20:27 GMT
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Austria
| I agree with what you said Bonnie.
A little bit more tolerance and respect on every side would solve a lot of problems - but than we are human, arenīt we?
By the way - I wish I will get a chance to try out what will feel better for me at a PS concert: sit or dance. It is really a shame that I never had the chance to visit one - maybe this time he will come close enough...
| | | | Klausi
Jul-25-2006, 22:37 GMT
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Germany
| Yes of course tolerance, and in a rock-concert much more is allowed than in the opera or theatre.
Your freedom always ends where one other`s begins. I never had any problems with the behaviour of other people in Simon`s shows.
As for the name, Paul is a surname and last name, as Simon, in many countries.
There are many, many Paul Simons in the world, and maybe some Simon Pauls.
But if I would meat him, I would definetely say Mr. Simon to a 64 Old man.
If we say Paul or PS or Simon here, it also has something to do with changes in writing and repeating/shortening.
I`m glad that "Paulie" is not familiar...
Why not? In Germany many say so to a Paul. It is surely because he is sooo serious.
We have only few Arthurs, but Art or Artie would not fit. Maybe Archie. | | | | Bodo
Jul-26-2006, 01:10 GMT
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Austria
| Itīs definately not possible to sit during YCCMA | | | | Beth
Jul-26-2006, 01:25 GMT
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USA - United Staates America
| "But if I would meet him, I would definitely say Mr. Simon to a 64 Old man."
I would have said Mr. Simon if I called him anything...but when I had my 10 seconds with him twice in Toledo...I really couldnīt call him any name...The first words out of my mouth were, "I have been a fan of yours for 40 years, could I please have your autograph?"
I did say, "Hi, Steve" when I saw Steve Gadd at the front desk of the hotel when we arrived...but I donīt think I could say that to Paul...I would have addressed him as Mr. Simon if I had the courage to address him...I didnīt have the courage......It was a very overwhelming experience...I was numb to be in his presence....Before I first saw him, I thought of what I would say...and the one thing I wanted him to know was that I had been a fan for 40 years.....
| | | | Scaaty
Jul-26-2006, 22:46 GMT
IP:
Ireland
 | 0At the YTO concert I was at in 2002, it was in a football ground (GAA which is bigger that soccer or rugby). I paid extra for a seat which was in the stand a good distance away. But as it was an all day festival I was able to be right up at the stage when Paul came on and there was no way I was going back to that seat!!
What i found very annoying (and donīt mention the wrd tolerance) was people talking whenever a song they didnīt know came on - namely all the YTO songs....now that deserves the death penalty, going to war, throwing M&Ms at people what ever!! Otherwise Iīm very easygoing live and let live type of person:-) | | | | Micky
Jul-27-2006, 15:18 GMT
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USA - United Staates America
| IÄ«ve only been to one copncert so far and that was in 1991. Nearly everyone was dancing. We were stood up near our chairs, or people were in the aisles. It was an amazing atmosphere, and the ages where very broad. You had people in their 70s, 60setc and kids. It was amazing and Paul loved it. To me the whole point is to enjoy yourself. I dance at home to his msuic and IÄ«m sure as hell going to dance at his concerts...lol | | | | kronsk
Jul-27-2006, 15:20 GMT
IP:
USA - United Staates America
| I see some venues have that PITT area in front for dancing that seems like a resonable comprimise... | | | | |
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