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BingFrisby
Feb-01-2005, 22:16 GMT
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United Kingdom
 | It´s interesting to listen to Paul Simon speak.It is noticeable in almost every interview or performance how he starts a sentence, pauses, then repeats the first part of his sentence and continues speaking.It is called an INAUDIBLE pause.eg "I´d like to thank.....I´d like to thank the....."as if he is giving himself time to think.This is fascinating and I wonder if it is the way New Yorker´s actually speak or is it just a mannerism that he has perfected?If you look at most of Woody Allen´s films,Annie Hall in particular,this same repetition of the beginning of a sentence is used throughout, especially by Diane Keaton,which is meant to give the impression the words are almost ad-libbed. |
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Lekornee
Feb-01-2005, 22:21 GMT
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USA - United Staates America
 | I think Woody Allen has that speech pattern in films because he´s really insecure (or his characters are) and it´s an idiosyncrasy. Most New Yorkers, as far as I know, don´t talk like that at all. But it is a lot less annoying than people saying "like" or "um" all the time. I think it just depends how fluid your speech is and how confident you are in it, how well-rehearsed it is, etc. |
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Micky
Feb-02-2005, 01:25 GMT
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United Kingdom
| It is a very interesting point...I know Paul is kown for wanting to make sure he egts it right when he gives interviews etc. Making sure all the information is correct, so he doesn´t sound stupid.
Blimey I wish I did what Paul does...lol I´m always tripping over my lips and getting my worms, I mean words wrong...lol Especially when I have a head like cotton candy as I do right now....I have a flaming cold...grrr
But it is a very interesting how Paul speaks, and going by the etxras on the DVD, he has always done it.
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Me |
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BingFrisby
Feb-02-2005, 08:48 GMT
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United Kingdom
| Yes, and the most famous one of all is the intro to America on the Live Rhymin´ album.Even though " I hope that we continue to live is totally off the cuff, he stil does the inaudible pause.....actually changing it from "I hope that we´re" to "I hope that WE continue to live".So in that instance it did give him thinking time and time to collect his thoughts. |
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BingFrisby
Feb-02-2005, 08:56 GMT
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United Kingdom
| I agree Lekornee, "like" and "um" are AUDIBLE pauses.So in effect the way Simon speaks is a combination of in audible AND inaudible pauses, the audible ones are at the start, the pause, then the repetition of the first audible pause.So in effect THREE pauses!I must say I find it a great characteristic the way he does this. |
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BingFrisby
Feb-02-2005, 08:57 GMT
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United Kingdom
| audible AND inaudible |
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Bodo
Feb-02-2005, 13:44 GMT
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Austria
 | Thats right - as a foreign speaker I have to say thats very confusing most of the time.
And at the moment as you know I´m trying to make subtitles for the John Mayer video. And I often delete these inaudible pauses. It´s horrible to read everything again and again :-) so I build 1 sentence out of it, and later the translation is sometimes much shorter than the whole bubblesentence Paul or Randy Jackson spoke.
Thats confusing then, cause someone could think I haven´t translated everything.
I also don´t translate this "you know" phrase every time, it doesn´t fit to the German grammary :-) |
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Kathryn
Feb-02-2005, 17:06 GMT
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Canada
 | I´ve never noticed the "you know" before. All I´ve really noticed is that he talks quite slow often and sort of has a drawl (someone mentionned it in another thread about his speech) I don´t really have a hard time understanding what he says, but english is my first language... |
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Marieno
Feb-02-2005, 18:12 GMT
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France
 | And that helps... :-) |
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miriam
Feb-02-2005, 20:58 GMT
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Germany
 | I too like the way Paul speaks and that he doesn´t swallow the word endings. He even pronoundes them over-carefully IMO, for example in Homeward Bound: "I play the game and preten_D_ ..." Bu sometimes he speaks so slowly I can almost finish his sentences in my head, like the 2003 press conference ;-)
He then sounds as if he is thinking of something else. |
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Micky
Feb-02-2005, 21:27 GMT
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United Kingdom
| I´d Love to be a fly on the wall at his and Edies home and listen to how he normally speaks as I imagine that he doesn´t normally speak in that manner and is probably much more relaxed and free speaking.
I think most people speak differently in privatre to how they speak in public. It´s something I´ve seen a number of times with the celebrity big brothers etc...Not that I watch that dross myself, but you know how it is when you catch little bits betwenn programmes.
Why do I feel you don´t believe me? But it is totally true, *She says with a grin!*
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Me |
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Fandosh
Feb-02-2005, 22:24 GMT
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Czech Republik
 | It´s very funny,when Paul´s speaking and in voice´s pauses he´s playing guitar. He does some chords or riffs and than he continue :-).
I think he speaks differently in private. I´ve got some problem about speaking for many people. I always stammer. I would like to say something inteligent and funny, but I forget it and I say something stupid.
I think I´m not this one, who has these problems :-)) |
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BingFrisby
Feb-02-2005, 22:31 GMT
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United Kingdom
| Yes, Bodo, I know what you mean with transcribing literally every word.There is a translation of the Paul Simon Solo 1988 documentary somewhere online, it must have taken ages to do.I do like one of the Solo Simon 1984 concerts when he mock shouts at someone in the audience."What you Say ABOUT NUW YOWAK"! |
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Lekornee
Feb-03-2005, 06:48 GMT
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USA - United Staates America
| I pick up speech Patterns of people I´m around so easily. When I´m with one of my friends we talk "gansgster" to each other so I´m always saying stuff like, "Yo, what up, homie?" and being weird like that. One of my friends used to go into these high screeches so now I do that sometimes. When I´m in another country I want to speak with an accent...any accent different from my own! Like when I was in Italy I wanted to speak with a British accent. When I have to speak in public I´m overly perky. When I am shy I say "never mind" a lot and mumble my words. When I´m talking to certain people I use a really high voice and when I´m at home I talk really fast and my voice is lower and less clear. So it does depend a lot of the situation as to how someone speaks.
I like Paul´s voice. I agree it has gotten a lot slower as he´s aged. When I listen to interviews of him in the early 60s it sounds like he picked up somewhat of a British accent. And it´s kind of ethnic, not really native New York.
Accents and things like that interest me. |
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Bodo
Feb-03-2005, 10:15 GMT
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Austria
| "Paul Simon solo" is this BBC interview right?
I´m glad that this documentation has been aired on german TV with German speakers :-)
In the last years they haven´t shown anything about Paul on German TV :-( |
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